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1) Put Rogers' head on a spike
2) Take over Hell
3) Unbreak Bucky's dick
4) Buy milk


Date: 2017-01-09 11:13 pm (UTC)
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[Bucky just plain liked knowing more about Rumlow, but it was hard in a household full of pets and teenagers to actually pin the older man down to relinquish some of those details. It wasn't like him to pry either, simply ask, hope for an answer and if it was not a comfortable subject, he let the matter drop immediately. Sometimes he managed to get the most information when they were just talking, chatting like what seemed like normal people did.

Generally they were people of action, letting their motions speak louder than any words that they spoke. Here in the noisy pub, it almost seemed as if they had a small corner of privacy, away from what he considered prying ears and eyes.

And sipping on his half-pint of beer, he could just nurse it through the night. It wasn't as if they had anywhere to be, and he wasn't lead to have any concerns about the goings on elsewhere either. Rumlow had his rapt attention, and that wasn't yet likely to change even if the pub became rowdy.]


One would think they would try to encourage your learning potential to steer you away from too much rough housing. Did you get in trouble a lot with your parents? I know you said they were kind of absent?

[The corner of his lips tugged at the idea of his commander as a rock star. He couldn't see it personally, but it was hard to consider all the angles as well.]

Do you regret what you've become?

Date: 2017-01-09 11:56 pm (UTC)
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[Bucky couldn't remember his schooling, but he assumed that there had been an edge of harshness to it. Of course, most of his recalled experiences before he died had an edge of that, so it might have just been what he knew sliding back to taint everything that had happened to him. He figured that there was nothing much to tell about him, and it would have been inconvenient to ask Natalia if he could borrow her book on him just to have something to speak on from his end.]

HYDRA managed to reel that kid in, or was it someone else? [Clearly Rumlow had gotten away for many years being that rebellious child, probably pushing the boundaries of most people's tolerance.] Why did she go downhill?

[It pleased him that his commander had no regrets, that everything in life had been lived in a way that Rumlow wanted it. There was something to be said about that, and it caused him to respect Rumlow even more, if that was even possible. He slid his foot up and down Rumlow's calf in reply, picking at their nachos with his fingers.]

Good, you shouldn't ever regret. Sometimes I wonder if I would.

Date: 2017-01-10 12:28 am (UTC)
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[He reached down with his flesh hand to catch and stroke Rumlow's tail, always pleased with its antics. It sometimes just seemed to have a mind of its own beyond anything that Rumlow happened to be doing at the time, and he found it soft and warm to touch, even if he knew it still had deadly barbs hidden inside.]

Did you graduate or drop-out? When did you get recruited to HYDRA?

[This was all aspects of Rumlow's life that he knew had to exist, but it seemed that few people actually knew the tale. He suspected that Rumlow trusted very few with it, given that it probably wasn't all that pleasant to recall in the first place. The fact that his commander would do so for him and be honest about the answers endeared him even more towards Rumlow.]

I don't know. Maybe losing all my memories. They suddenly seem like a part of me that I need because I can't share with you what you share with me.

Date: 2017-01-10 12:51 am (UTC)
disassembling: (WS - Who am I)
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[Bucky had to laugh at Rumlow's eloquent reply, enjoying the crudeness of it. His hand twisted around the tail, stroking its softness with his fingers and watching his commander fondly. It sure was something else to see Rumlow being crude and recalling unpleasant details but still letting nothing deter the man from what he had wanted.]

How does HYDRA recruit young people? I mean, it can't just be a sign on the dotted line kind of thing, right? They have to have assurances that you're the right fit to a degree.

[He met Rumlow's look, lifting an eyebrow even as he stuck a chip in his mouth and chewed. Sometimes he wanted to ask what Rumlow knew of him, knew of how he had come to be like this. He was certain there were dossiers about it, a little introduction to what he was, how to handle him, and how to recall him on missions. There had to be something in there, but so far, he had been unable to bring himself to ask. Maybe he knew Rumlow would be truthful but reluctant. Maybe he wasn't comfortable with the answers.]

I know you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be in this relationship with me. I mean, there would be no point after all, since I was under your command regardless. You could have carried on and still been able to deploy me, but you didn't... you took a risk and came to like me as I am now.

Date: 2017-01-10 01:26 am (UTC)
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[He listened to the tale of Rumlow's induction into the ranks of HYDRA and could read behind the lines. He knew enough about HYDRA policy to understand that once the offer was made, refusal was not part of the package deal. It was a life obligation to be part and parcel of the organization, and he was certain that everyone in it had made extensive sacrifices at some point in their lives.

He also suspected that HYDRA had been watching Rumlow for many weeks or months before the sting. They were so organized and careful after all, but he was pleased that they had come to a good conclusion about Rumlow. How else would they have come to meet one another and start all of this?]


And the rest is nothing more than history, is it? You served and still serve.

[Charmed him? Bucky snorted as he took a sip of beer and let it sit on his tongue for a few seconds before he swallowed it. Stronger than normal beer and maybe that was why he was taking his time as he was. Still, the idea that he was charming Rumlow when before coming here, they had probably only served a handful of missions together and he could remember exactly zero of them too. Hell had changed a lot of the rules of the game, and Rumlow had probably been one of the few adaptable men to be able to cope with keeping him in line.

But charmed? Ha, what a novel idea.]
Do you think I can continue to charm you? I mean, we have eternity and all.

Date: 2017-01-10 02:17 am (UTC)
disassembling: (WS - Malfunction)
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[Bucky was in the process of picking through the chips to find one that looked particularly inviting, his other hand still stroking and twisting in Rumlow's tail when the word hit him. He froze where he sat, the feel of his commander's thigh pressed to his own, a welcome heat to the sudden drop of temperature throughout his body. He rallied mentally quickly, but he still took his time wiping his fingers on the napkin and slowly turning to face Rumlow sitting next to him.

He looked at Rumlow's face, studying his commander's expression for a long moment, even if he knew there was a question hanging in the air between them. A part of him was not shocked to hear this while the part of him that was deeply loyal to HYDRA was scandalized by the sheer notion that a lifer like Rumlow was giving it all up. Mixed feelings were difficult for him to pick apart because they tended to bleed together, and he sometimes couldn't tell what was programming and what was his own emotions on the matter.]


You... had the Triskelion collapse on you. It's a miracle you survived as long as you did in the rubble, right?

Date: 2017-01-10 02:49 am (UTC)
disassembling: (WS - Who am I)
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[The Soldier was, perhaps, reminded in that moment that his own death had been swift. The crushing of his rib cage had left little choice for him; without the ability to breathe or have his heart beat, he was dead and nothing more could be done. Nothing could save him. He sort of understood that Rumlow had suffered in a hospital bed; there had been brief comments here and there about the matter, but it had never been something that either of them tended to bring up seriously.

He remained quiet and internalized even if he was still watching Rumlow carefully, giving his commander his piece right now and pondering why there was a throb to his temples. Like part of his world had just collapsed under a weight he had not expected. Like the foundation had been poor and rotten and now he had to try to hold it up on his own.

The problem was that Rumlow was his foundation right now. In Rumlow, there was strength because HYDRA had forced them both into a mold that was necessary for existence. Rumlow was one of the only men that he had met who understood what it was like to be pulled out from the inside, manually reprogrammed and have everything stuffed back in. Rumlow understood how the mission was everything, that it could fill the screaming emptiness that forced him to ask questions about himself, about why things were not as they seemed. Rumlow was a product of a similar machine as he was.

His jaw worked unconsciously like he was grinding his teeth even if it was silent. His eyes dropped from Rumlow's face to stare somewhere at his commander's chest but his gaze was far away.

The reasoning was sound, but a treacherous part of him thought that all Rumlow needed was to be twisted back up in the HYDRA programming again. It almost felt as if Rumlow leaving the ranks out of the man's own volition for whatever the reason was somehow also abandoning him to the programming that still held him captive. So strong was his commander that Rumlow had suffered enough to deny what they had both served so long under, and yet here he was... sitting at a table, pretending he could be normal and realizing in a single moment that he was completely and utterly alone with the propaganda that filled his head, of the programming which he couldn't escape, of the words that he instinctively knew existed but could never actually recall.

He had to come up with something though, didn't he? He understood that Rumlow would be watching, waiting for his reaction, judging how he coped with this new information even if maybe it wasn't quite so new. Just in the light where he could see it in all of its entirety. His mouth felt dry, his tongue stuck to the roof of his mouth, but he managed to pry it loose, managed to flick his gaze to meet Rumlow's eyes.]


So... you've renounced your pledge...?

Date: 2017-01-10 03:19 am (UTC)
disassembling: (WS - Why do we fall?)
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[HYDRA didn't abandon those who had the strength to believe, he thought. It wasn't his thought though, but it no less swam up from the depths of his consciousness. HYDRA was an ideal, a principle that could not fail so long as there was one person to believe in it. It transcended race, gender, social class, economic status, language even. Those that hadn't the strength to believe were eliminated in some way, or they were kept on, forced to be shattered and rebuilt in a way that allowed their belief to return again.

The Winter Soldier thought only: I should kill him.

He was an absolute, the most loyal, the most hard-core, the most extreme of the elements that HYDRA had in place. They had seventy years to perfect him, and even now, the programming hooked into his mind, rattled down his options to complete and utter simplicity: kill or don't.

Yet, a part of him that had developed from the severity of his programming couldn't lift a hand against his commander. A part of him that was Bucky Barnes at heart, loyal to those who loved and cared for him still existed, had always been fighting. Hell had, to a degree, been good for him, had given him a freedom that had previously not existed and part of that had been Rumlow.

He continued to stare, his expression a void of emotion. Emotion lead to mistakes and mistakes lead to mission failure. Yet, he hurt so badly, like when his chest had been caved in on the helicarrier, like how the horrified expression on Steve's face had reached through his last suffering breaths to hit him harder than the damage to his body. He opened his mouth to say something, to reply to the words and only a squeak of a sound came out.

He snapped his mouth shut and reached for his beer, taking a drag from it and having to literally struggle to force it down. It tasted like ash. He thought he might be sick as he fought his own internal war.]


Y-your weapon.

Date: 2017-01-10 03:46 am (UTC)
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[The conflict grew to a hideous swell like waves battering against the rocky shoals, but the rocks were coming apart, his foundation was falling into the waves that ate them up greedily, triumphantly.The rest would give way, but he would fight because he had to, because without the foundation that had been so deeply buried inside of him, what was he? What would he become?

Nothing. He had no memories. He couldn't build himself from what was the past because it no longer existed for him. HYDRA had put so much inside of him, had built him up from scratch, destroyed him many times just to build up again and again. There was nothing left behind but the Soldier. There were no memories to fill the void that was opening up as his programming warred against the idea that not being part of HYDRA was possible.

He swayed where he sat, frozen in this internalized moment that was still unfolding even as Rumlow slid closer, and his metal fist did indeed clench but around his beer glass, shattering it and washing the amber liquid across the table and against his lap. He barely felt it, but he did release the glass shards to the table.

Rumlow's punctuated words blasted through his brain, rattling around, settling in place and then flitting off again. His mouth opened, hung there for a few moments and then closed again because his brain had jammed. He didn't wince, but he experienced pain at the upheaval that was happening inside of his head, but Rumlow's words were a warm coating to the shattering pieces of his world.]


You're... leaving me to this... Hell, aren't you? The Fist of HYDRA must have a handler...
Edited Date: 2017-01-10 03:46 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-01-10 04:06 am (UTC)
disassembling: (WS - Desperation)
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[His metal hand opened, letting shattered glass dance on the table, and aside from a few demons looking over to investigate the sound, no one cared much for the drama unfolding in their small corner of the loud room. He could certainly use one as a weapon, could quite easily have one in hand and slashing at Rumlow's throat before the man might teleport away from him. He could stab him over and over, try to force the programming back inside of him, but he knew it was futile.

Rumlow had broken free. His commander was stepping away from the mold that had made them both, had the strength of character and somehow had been undermining that programming that he knew must be there to keep Rumlow in check. All this time in Hell, Rumlow had been hating HYDRA for abandonment, had been tugging him along on the road that he thought was the one that he was expected to follow because Rumlow was his commander, was in control of the ideals that they had to serve. All this time, and Rumlow had been pulling free of it all.

His commander's words struck him almost like knife strokes, opening him up. It was blasphemous. There was always HYDRA, he thought, even if he struggled against the idea. HYDRA was in his head, was stamped into his bones, but he was dead and couldn't hope to function at the level in which he had been made.

And Rumlow had Kenzi, Chase to a degree, was safely and clearly functional without HYDRA. Rumlow could continue on with Chimera, but certainly wasn't beholden to it. He had programming and no memories.

Maybe he really did deserve to be in Hell.]


All those plans... everything we talked about regarding Brimstone. The recruitment speeches, the weapon gathering, the finding appropriate allies to help us... was that all a lie? Was everything I tried to do for you for an ideal you already abandoned and only now am telling me? HYDRA is...

[What? HYDRA is what? His brain seemed to jam, unable to piece together the words to finish the sentence even for himself. Seventy years. Was this what it felt like to have his programming come apart?]

Date: 2017-01-10 04:27 am (UTC)
disassembling: (WS - Malfunction)
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[Was there a better? What was beyond HYDRA because HYDRA was constantly changing, constantly improving, constantly morphing into what the world needed most? Wasn't that how it worked? Wasn't that why the organization had dug so deep, put so much into him and their agents on the ground? It never was static because the world was never one single thing, but a mosaic of destruction, selfishness and greed. That's why they had sacrificed so much, to force the world to a point of willingly offering up its freedom so that it could finally be secure, could finally have order.

The claws of his programming bit in, always resistant to treacherous thoughts that might lead him away from the purpose he had been created for. It hurt to resist, but he did anyway because the pain was clouding his mind as it was and only the brief bursts of Rumlow's words managed to penetrate, gave him something to latch onto even if it was brief. It hurt, and the more that it did, the more he wanted more pain because it was so familiar.

He stared at Rumlow, his metal fingers twitching on the table now that his fist had opened again.]


I'm not... as strong as you are. [It was whispered loud enough that he knew Rumlow could hear over the loudness of the pub.] I can't... walk away. I'm nothing without what HYDRA put in my head... and you control it. You broke free, but I can't go. Do you understand? [He tapped his temple with a finger, looking lost, feeling torn open.]

It's in my head. Words. Orders. You have a life; you have memories; you could be something more, but I can't. You're free; HYDRA never abandoned you.

[He picked up a glass shard between his metal fingers, turning it over without even thinking about it.]

You outgrew HYDRA....

Date: 2017-01-10 04:59 am (UTC)
disassembling: (WS - Holding back)
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[There was no rebellion from him as Rumlow's hand settled on his wrist, perhaps assessing the danger that a class shard could create while in his possession. He didn't relinquish it from his grip, but he neither moved to put it to use as a weapon either. No, he simply turned it in his fingers, giving something repetitive to do with himself. It was an attempt at a calm gesture, to settle down the swirl of emotions and thoughts that waged their continued war in his head. Over and over it turned, catching the light of the room to reflect back at where they sat.

With Rumlow pressing closer, the resistance to remain at a distance decreased as well. He had no idea what else to do with himself, the sheer idea that Rumlow had outgrown HYDRA, had left it behind was still rattling around in his head, disturbing the attempt at happiness that they had so far managed to cultivate together. Things had been rough before; a part of him knew that it would be rough again eventually. Right now, it just felt as if the rug had been pulled right out from under his feet, and the only person who was going to keep him from falling away completely was the same person that had started this cascade in the first place.]


But it's in my head. I can feel it, and I can't get rid of it. There's nothing in there but what HYDRA put inside of me, is there? Bucky Barnes is gone or whatever he was is so buried he may as well be dead.

[Slowly, he leaned his head forward, bringing it to rest against Rumlow's temple where he could close his eyes, and he could do little more than force himself to breathe. He didn't need to being dead, but it was yet another repetitive motion that gave him the attempt to find calm.]

Why does the truth always hurt so much? Shouldn't it be good and just? Isn't that what we're fighting for? Order. Truth. A end to the fighting....

Date: 2017-01-10 05:25 am (UTC)
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[There was a shift in the air around Rumlow, but it didn't entirely wash over him. He was still reeling after all, still feeling the effects of trying to cope with the idea that Rumlow had left HYDRA, had outgrown what had come from that organization. He fought against the idea that Rumlow was going to leave him behind, leaving him with the programming that couldn't entirely dictate what he was supposed to do with himself. Like his commander, the fear of being abandoned to that fate was almost unthinkable and yet still seemed highly possible.

There was a part of him that believed Rumlow to know, but also a part of him that knew that his programming was much, much deeper and laid on thickly. Rumlow had to be functional, had to live, breathe, eat that life, to always be a double agent where his path was all about control, about doing what he was told and while he had moved away from it, their would always be a part of him currently looking for an order. He hadn't been away from HYDRA long enough to fight back, to be torn apart again and put back together.]


You mean, you think I should make up a past that I can live by because I can't remember the one that I had? [It might not be the suggestion, but it was almost a validating one anyway. He could be whoever he want even if he had to still live in the shadow of knowing that any other handler who had died could come and find him. With a selection of words, he could be little more than the Fist again.] Will you... help me to break down the programming then? Help me to remember?

[Because this was so fragile. A moment of happiness dashed with a single word, a change in tense that should have meant to little. Instead, it had rocked his world, had thrown him into a tail-spin that had undermined some of the strength that he thought they had had together. United in purpose. United together.

He pulled the shard of glass he was holding closer, turning it so that he could watch the light of the room reflect off of it. Why did it all still hurt, like the air had been sucked right out of his lungs? He should be righting himself, setting back on his feet, adapting.]


If I... become something, someone, do you think you'll lose me?

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